2008. november 14., péntek

Thompson koncert Szombathelyen

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4 megjegyzés:

freepalestine írta...

i don't support this. he is singing fascist songs (there are lines in his own songs that are fascist, in addition to singing old ustasha (croatian fascist)songs) and his followers are fascists.

his followers come to his concerts wearing fascist insignia. it's a big problem, brainwashing young people and making idiots out of them. they raise their hands in fascist salute and yell "death to the serbs".

muslims (and jews) in bosnia (and croatia) also oppose thompson (as you know people who support him also support warcrimes and ethnic cleansing of muslims in bosnia)

freepalestine from croatia

ps - i also don't like this type of "music", but that's another point...

freepalestine írta...

i don't support this. he is singing fascist songs (there are lines in his own songs that are fascist, in addition to singing old ustasha (croatian fascist)songs) and his followers are fascists.

his followers come to his concerts wearing fascist insignia. it's a big problem, brainwashing young people and making idiots out of them. they raise their hands in fascist salute and yell "death to the serbs".

muslims (and jews) in bosnia (and croatia) also oppose thompson (as you know people who support him also support warcrimes and ethnic cleansing of muslims in bosnia)

freepalestine from croatia

ps - i also don't like this type of "music", but that's another point...

Névtelen írta...

Thompson has not one single "fascist" song, neither he has any song alluding to ustaše. Freepalestine, show me one of his "fascist" songs. You won't be able to because he has none. The only possible exception is the beginning of his song "Čavoglave", where he says "Za dom spremni" (for home ready). It was the salute once employed by the ustaša movement. But that's all. And please, don't mention the idiotic song (with a really degenerate contents, I must admit) "Jasenovac i Gradiška Stara" as an argument in this. Because this is NOT Thompson's song, but a song composed by a local "poet" from the town of Sinj, called Joško Tomičić. Thompson merely sang this song (not his, but a song composed by someone else) at only one occasion, at a wedding party. Someone recorded it and broadcasted it in the media. It caused much outrage in Croatia, since the song was falsely attributed to Thompson. Well, I say, he shouldn't have sung this song at all ("Jasenovac i Gradiška Stara"), he has his share of blame, but it is so stupidly ridiculous that having sung someone else's song at a wedding party caused one singer's reputation to be forever tainted as "fascist". Regarding Thompson's fans who attend his concerts: some of them (not all) having fascist or ustasha insignia is their own problem, not Thompson's. I do not see how he is to blame for that.

Finally, Croatia has nowadays much bigger problems than a bunch of Thompson's fans and much greater concerns which should make an average Croat blush. For example, having received the world's criminal and mass-murderer George Bush this spring in Zagreb, with all honours, should be an infinitely bigger concern for any honest Croatian these days than a small group of Thomspon fans. Croatia preparing itself to join a criminal and an imperialistic organization called NATO soon, Croatia having mercenary murderers in Afghanistan, along with American and British Nazi bandits, are the real causes for which I feel a shame. And not for some youngsters wearing ustaša insignia, since ustaše are matter of the past, they do not exist any more anyway, while things I just referred to are happening today and are very real. The same goes for Croatia's preparations to join the fascist EU, which is slowly abandoning all democratic standards and is about to become the most hideous transnational dictatorship that ever existed, with power elites forever entrenched in their positions, protected by the American Nazi murderers, in form of the NATO's military bases in Europe.

As for Thompson's music, I am not a big fan of it either, from a purely artistic criterion. But I was here defending a principle.

PS. and I also say: Free Palestine

With best regards,

Boris, Croatia

freepalestine írta...

boris,

i agree with a lot of what you say about NATO, EU and especially about the visit by warcriminal bush, and i am glad you also say free palestine. but i totally disagree with what you say about thompson.

for a long time i also thought that it was "only" singing the "stara gradiška & jasenovac" song
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak.aspx?id=178032

(and also „jure i boban“)
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak.aspx?id=178979

http://hr.wikisource.org/wiki/Evo_zore,_evo_dana

(and not just once on one wedding party but in various concerts in croatia and abroad)
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak.aspx?id=178979

and his fans (which miraculously only appaear on thompson's concerts with ustasha insignia) that was really wrong with thompson.
apart from bad taste or kitsch "music" and plagiarism (i don't know his songs, but whenever i hear one it sounds awful and one is, i believe, a copy of super trooper by ABBA).
(also, isn't it at least a bit odd that thomspon always wears black clothes in his concerts?)

but then, i have never really listened to his songs and to my shame i am not very well educated on the pavelić regime and genocide committed against serbs, jews, roma and others in Croatia during WWII. I also believe other croatians aren't that well educated either, so maybe they don't recognize it?

then, a couple of weeks ago or so, i watched the latinica talk show or HRT with the goldsteins (who do have their own flaws when it comes to supporting israel, both of them being zionists, but that is no reason not to trust them on croatian fascist regime during WWII and genocide commited against jews, especially since one of them is a holokaust survivor and the other is a historian who wrote a book about holokaust) and there i heard that in fact thompson does use words alluding to ustaše regime in his own songs (apart from inciting hatred against minorities), but unfortunately i haven't remembered everything or haven't paid attention all the time and i can't find that part of the show where ivo goldstein analyses some of thompson's own songs in the studio.

however i do remember "ljuta trava na ljutu ranu" (which is also mentioned in the youtube excerpt from the show below) which supposedly is how ustaše or pavelić described what they were going to do to the serbs, which, of course, was genocide. And that is the line from one of thompson's songs

This is an excerpt from the show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrD6wH1rMg

some of the quotations from newspapers here also seem to imply thompson likes to sing old ustaše songs…

i think it should be of our concern that some people are wearing ustaše insignia and spreading hatred against other nationalities. and it should be of our concern how our minorities who are citizens of croatia feel in this country where they live and pay taxes. i honestly think they might be in danger from some of thompson’s fans attacking them.

i think maybe during the war thompson was one thing, but then he got involved with people who have interest in inciting racial hatred against the serbs and spreading chauvinist nationalism among young people? i hope this is not just an introduction into his getting involved in politics